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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Dec 18, 2008 8:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best copy of one of the most-reviewed shows

I've listened to some of this show- at all, but certainly more than 10 seconds - and I'm afraid I cannot agree with you. We all have our different biases and ratings systems, and to me this is nothing "great" about this show in any sense of the word. A strong showing relative to the era, perhaps, but nothing I would ever reach for again with so many other shows and eras to choose from.

I have no problem pleading guilty to being an unapologetic, unreformed 90s basher- in the 13 years since Garcia's death I have periodically given in to suggestions to give such and such a show a "fair" listen with "open" ears and that this will surely change my mind and it just hasn't happened. They're not all awful, but if I had to list my Top 50 shows for a desert island, nothing from after late 1990 would make the list.

HOWEVER, if you get joy out of these shows, more power to you (seriously). Just because I don't dig them doesn't mean they have any more or less value than some of the musty old stuff that I like. After all, I get to hear from my wife all the time just how "awful" my beloved 1970 Capitol Theater audience shows are....lol

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Dec 18, 2008 10:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best copy of one of the most-reviewed shows

Terrapin and SOTM from this show are great, no matter what period you like. But I don't necessarily mean to be the champion of 90s GD music. My favorite period is the mid 80s, but I find lots of good and great shows from the 90s.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Dec 18, 2008 1:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best copy of one of the most-reviewed shows

"Terrapin and SOTM from this show are great, no matter what period you like"

...unless you don't happen to think SOTM is a great Dead song to begin with, which I don't. And two great songs don't necessarily translate into a truly great show.

You can insist all you want to that it's a great show but like everything else with this band there's never going to be a consensus...I'm glad you dig this show. Enjoy it. But to my ears its nothing special.

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Dec 18, 2008 1:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best copy of one of the most-reviewed shows

I wasnt really trying to persuade anyone about anything. I posted it as a response to all the "everything after 1989 is unlistenable" people. I agree with many assessments of 90s shows, but I pointed this one out as an exception. And I'm not writing this as a nasty response to you in any way. We all like different periods of the music, and I love that about the GD.

But you don't like SOTM?!?

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Dec 18, 2008 6:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Best copy of one of the most-reviewed shows

I don't think SOTM is awful or anything, I just don't think it's anything special. It's just sort of....okay.

For me, a lot of the material the band introduced in the 80s and 90s is like that- not horrible by any means, even pretty good on occasion, but nothing timeless. I really think the band's songwriting wells dried up around 1977 or so (Terrapin, Estimated, Fire...maybe into 78 with Shakedown).

Interestingly, I attended my first show in 1983 and used to love the material from that era, but now that I'm fairly familiar with many shows from all eras I find the Mydland era songs just don't do all that much for me anymore. Still listen to some 80s shows, though.